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Cheddar's I'm Greg Karl with from sunny

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and a ton of smoke just a quick update

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on the THC Money bomb before we get

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going as you've heard I'm giving away

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to one of you guys and so far this is

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that and we're not done yet

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you want all the details just go to the

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your higher education for the week with

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science with our guest Jim Elvin she's

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frustrated yes we are tired and we

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reject the grave proof tranquilizers

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that have Monday Night Football and a

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nice cold blood wedge room we have to

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stop hiding stop hiding behind the

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headphones of the cherry popper 4/20

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username let the world see that the

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changing it was a time to be anonymous

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that time has passed and so the higher

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conspiracies as the dawn of this new

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paradigm of delusion because bold

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celebrity redress for Atlanta sleeping

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problem disparities redefines bold

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bugging today it's appear to use nets

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bolt designs for trouble times hard

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okay people I'm here with Rob davon the

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higher side chats newsman with this

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week's higher education the news that

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gives you clues as we try to figure out

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what's going on in this weird world of

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ours Rob my man what's a good word well

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here or something to get started a

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bizarre and violent series of events at

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an Oklahoma City apartment involving a

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of touch with reality the police report

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the male demon touch him so yeah you

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coming in and totally raping and

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pillaging everything and there seems to

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of the week okay it's probably the most

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disappointing news this week I was

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I broke down and started crying an icon

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associated with paranoia the tinfoil hat

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being able to read your thoughts

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existence of a 2005 Massachusetts

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Institute of Technology study on the

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aluminum helmets actually amplify radio

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companies and satellites the study

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government must have propagated the myth

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themselves part of the grand conspiracy

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who knows man that's like a low-tech

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version of identifying people by going

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that lax shooter and I know we've both

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wheelchair and the seat at the scene of

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the shooting which is suggesting to a

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lot of people that this is another

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staged attack but you've been sort of

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critical on that viewpoint I mean do you

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Hook and the other ones and then those

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occurrences around it you know a lot of

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things that make you stop and go hmm

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that's different but with this lax one

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it's pretty cut and simple I mean the

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guy walked in with a gun people saw it

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others IRA shorter story killed one

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person and wounded two others but what

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the conspiracy is the photo of him

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laying on the ground and there's a pool

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of what looks to be red gelatin laying

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beside him yeah exactly and he's got his

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laying in a weird position and as I

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any hunt and then the way he's laying

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there saying oh well he's it's a dummy

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he's laying on the ground look at the

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way he's lame but if you notice his

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hands are behind his back and he's

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probably handcuffed and that would

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that's typical of them right they get

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the cuffs on him and then they beat the

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living hell out of them for you know

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anything strange with this one I mean it

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all seems pretty cut and dry and unless

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any other other evidence comes out to

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make me think otherwise I'm just gonna

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call this one a loan gum and that was

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crazy and that's fair I mean I know the

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pictures you're just you're talking

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about of him that looks totally legit to

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aerial shot with the dummy in the

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wheelchair that's a little bit odd but

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it's also like so obvious I can't

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imagine that that would be used like you

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know that would be used as something

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legitimate exactly it could be something

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as simple as they were using that dummy

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as a staging prop for something else at

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the time of the shooting and they were

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just getting it out of the area like

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there's there's nothing really there to

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make me think that there's any sort of

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conspiracy yeah I mean one big thing

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though is it's just so convenient that

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it provides a catalyst to have armed TSA

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guards or at least military personnel at

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the airport because if you just do a

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google search on the story every major

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outlet is asking about armed guards

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armed TSA now it's the new conversation

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so I gotta admit that's a bit of a gift

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for the global elite oh it is it is and

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and I think sometimes they just use this

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stuff as their their cover to push the

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stuff through but other times they

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create the events i I just I don't know

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apparent shooter has absolutely had

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shown absolutely no signs of being crazy

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that that's that's kind of fishy but

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beyond that I haven't really seen

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anything that makes me think that the

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government did it um I'm sure they will

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use it as they usually do for any event

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that they can you know manipulate yeah

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the only other thing that makes me

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skeptical is I'm starting to wonder if

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you know when stories come out that are

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so well synchronized across all the

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competing in air quotes networks it

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seems like there are stories like for

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example Sandy Hook and Aurora those

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things are like on there and they're on

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they're all that at the same time as if

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it was handed down but then there aren't

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events that happened there are like

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there was a guy who went into a mall and

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shot like seven people there was another

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school shooting a few months back ones

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that don't make the news and I wonder if

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that's because those are the real events

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that weren't expected to happen and the

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ones that do just hit like wildfire are

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planned events and that's just that's

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not based on anything that's just

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something I've been knowing in the past

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a year it is a good good way to look at

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it because that is true you know before

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the Aurora shooting the day before

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somebody walked into a mall and started

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firing off rounds and I am believe three

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or four people were killed and it never

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made the news but Aurora happens like

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the next day or the next week and

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suddenly that's everywhere mm-hmm and

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here's the story one man getting shot

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you know I mean I'm st. Louis there were

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four people killed in a day and it's

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like amongst friends of mine a big thing

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because it's where they live it seems

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like a safe area but that wasn't

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national news exactly exactly I mean

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that there was there's been incidents

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here in Canada where people have been

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they found a car full of like six bikers

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and it's shot to death

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that wasn't major news right so I wonder

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sometimes with the synchronization and

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the overblown production to some of

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these particular stories maybe they are

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that quick maybe they just find the real

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random event that serves the cause and

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amplify it but I mean I've also seen

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several stories recently about Obama

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firing a lot of high-ranking military

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officials and I guess the ideas behind

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that is that the administration is

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removing generals and officers that seem

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resistant to the idea of firing on

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American people and it's a lot of

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speculation but I wonder if this isn't

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close to the path we're walking on well

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it does seem to be the road we're headed

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down I mean that's what they want they

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want TSA on the streets of America they

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want the same thing here in Canada it's

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just they're slowly working towards and

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so every little event that happens like

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this whether they planned it or not

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they're gonna use it to the best that

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they possibly can hmm yeah all right man

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well I feel a little bit smarter thanks

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for doing this you know people check out

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everything Rob's doing ton of conspiracy

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goodness at dark space TV and we'll see

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you next week man thanks again all right

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buddy

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how's it going higher side shatters

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welcome to the party tonight we're gonna

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grab the Red Solo Cup of consciousness

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walk it to the keg of infinite

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possibility garnish it with little high

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weirdness and throw that baby back

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because we're getting drunk on science

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and speculation tonight simulation

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Theory the nature of consciousness the

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technological singularity and a bunch of

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other stuff I'm going to pretend to

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understand and our guest for this wild

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ride is Jim Elvidge who holds a master's

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degree in electrical engineering from

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Cornell University and for many years

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has kept pace with the latest research

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theories and discoveries in the varied

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fields of subatomic physics cosmology

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artificial intelligence nanotechnology

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and the paranormal this unique knowledge

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has provided a perfect foundation for

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his book the universe solved and I

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couldn't be more thrilled to have him

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here Jim how are you I'm great thanks

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very much for having me Greg looking

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forward to the show of course man it's a

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real pleasure you know I've been really

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looking forward to this one there's so

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many things to talk about but let's

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start with this programmed reality

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theory of yours I mean it's pretty far

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out there the idea that we're living in

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a simulation or a computer program

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something like the matrix

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I've liked that idea for a while when

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the movie came out but I've never really

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entertained it much it's a real

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possibility until reading some of your

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thoughts and Nick Bostrom's thoughts and

385
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now I don't know what to think so

386
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you tell the people a little bit about

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this program reality idea yes sure

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absolutely and people are probably most

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familiar with it through some of the

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movies from Hollywood maybe some science

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fiction writing philip k dick and other

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people who have explored these kinds of

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ideas over the years and it's and that's

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cool because they they generally give

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some sort of description of it or you

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know a reason for it to be in the matrix

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for example there was a you know a

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sinister aspect to what was behind the

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matrix people may say that it isn't you

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know that way that it could be just

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simulation that that we've put together

402
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in the future and we're just running I

403
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think that's more Boston's idea but it

404
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actually I mean it goes back pretty far

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Konrad Zuse I think was the first person

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to postulate the idea and that was in 69

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I believe

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at our world could be digital and from

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there you can go in a bunch of different

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directions you can say well it could be

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it could be digital but there could be

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nothing behind it or you could say well

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it could be digital but there's there's

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some programmatic aspect to it and

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therefore there was a programmer or it

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could be that it's not an entity per se

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that we think of an entity but it was

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more of a system that evolved and

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generated this reality but you know in a

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digital form so you know all these

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things kind of fit into the general

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field of digital philosophy or digital

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physics if you will and you know it's we

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can explore the pros and cons of a lot

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of the different ideas yeah I mean the

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thing I thought was most interesting

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that I'd heard you say in the past is if

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it's very likely that at some point

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we'll be able to simulate reality so

430
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isn't it also likely that we've already

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been there that we're already there now

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yeah exactly and that's Nick Bostrom's

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sort of philosophical in a logical

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argument and it's really hard to find

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fault with it he's saying that given

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where we think we are you know we're

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pursuing these kinds of simulations now

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we do it with you know massively

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multiplayer online role-playing games

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and we do it with you know virtual

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reality and it gets more and more

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accurate all the time and that you know

443
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we follow Moore's Law with a you know

444
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escalating speed of computers and the

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escalating resolution of our screens and

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things like that at some point we won't

447
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be able to tell the difference between

448
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reality and a simulation we're there now

449
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in terms of what we can hear you know we

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could put some unobtrusive headphones on

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and not be able to tell the difference

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between a surf or really being down you

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know at the beach and listening to the

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ways and from a visual perspective if

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you're able to cover your full field of

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vision you know we can generate that

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kind of resolution that is equivalent to

458
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the visual acuity of the eye today so

459
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we're really close and you know the only

460
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thing that

461
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that kind of remains to be done is is a

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scenario or or a you know the the

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richness of a reality and something

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about our memories because if we were to

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play a simulation put on a headset and

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you know execute a simulation we know

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because we've got the memories that

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really for we started the simulation and

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and that this is just a simulation so

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that brings into question about you know

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the idea of how how accurate are the

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memories how much can we believe in the

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memories that we think we have and you

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know honestly there's a tremendous

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amount of research and brain computer

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interface that's going on where memories

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are being erased in in mice you know

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they they will teach a mouse how to do

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something erasing memory re-inject the

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memory and you know and show that they

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can actually inject false memories into

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mice and rats in the laboratory so if

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they're doing that now and again we

484
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follow the progression the logical

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progression of science and technology

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there is going to be some day where we

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can suspend our memory inject a new kind

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of you know set of memory artifacts if

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you will run a simulation and then

490
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restore our old memory again so Boston

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says that's you can he refers to that as

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the concept of post humanism so when you

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get to a point where you can generate

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your own sort of fantasy reality if you

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will and you know that maybe twenty or

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thirty years away so his argument goes

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like this if you know if that's possible

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and we know that it's possible there's

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only one of three things that can happen

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either we never get there but because in

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the next thirty years we blow ourselves

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up as a society or we never get there

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because we make a conscious decision not

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to get there and that one I I tend to

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disregard that one because I think you

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know whenever we ever stared an

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interesting technology in the face and

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said not going to not going to pursue

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that

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agree and then the third one is we do

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get there and we generate millions and

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millions of simulations and so then the

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if that's the case then the odds that

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were in the 130 years before that time

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versus one of the millions that gets

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generated is very small so if you think

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through his logic if you're if you're a

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pessimist you'll you'll believe that

519
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we're going to blow ourselves up in the

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next 30 years if you're an optimist you

521
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would have to believe that we're

522
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actually in a simulation when you take

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that a step further we could be just

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stuck in an infinite loop of digital

525
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realities within digital realities where

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we learn more and more and more and

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create another one and create another

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one yet I think that's actually really

529
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an insightful thought because you know

530
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it's sort of like a fractal it's exactly

531
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with the pictures that show these

532
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fractal images and more you zoom in on

533
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them you see the same thing and there

534
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are a number of scientists and

535
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physicists and so forth Tom Campbell

536
00:22:04,649 --> 00:22:01,380
comes to mind who believed that our our

537
00:22:07,019 --> 00:22:04,659
reality is a fractal and and if you

538
00:22:09,720 --> 00:22:07,029
looked at look at it at different scales

539
00:22:12,180 --> 00:22:09,730
you see the same thing the same kind of

540
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structures not just physical structures

541
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but the way things tend to work and this

542
00:22:20,850 --> 00:22:18,820
whole idea of well we could be in a

543
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simulation now and in our simulation

544
00:22:25,139 --> 00:22:23,169
we're creating simulations you know and

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in that simulation we're creating a

546
00:22:28,019 --> 00:22:26,830
virtual reality game and someday that'll

547
00:22:30,330 --> 00:22:28,029
be a simulation you know what I mean

548
00:22:35,879 --> 00:22:30,340
that's that whole aspect of things is

549
00:22:37,259 --> 00:22:35,889
also fractal so it all kind of fits yeah

550
00:22:39,149 --> 00:22:37,269
I mean on the subject of fractals I've

551
00:22:41,159 --> 00:22:39,159
seen those pictures where people put on

552
00:22:44,310 --> 00:22:41,169
one side like a cell in the human body

553
00:22:46,789 --> 00:22:44,320
and on the other side a galaxy and they

554
00:22:49,470 --> 00:22:46,799
look so similar it's that same Zen

555
00:22:53,009 --> 00:22:49,480
philosophy point of you know everything

556
00:22:56,070 --> 00:22:53,019
is part of the whole isn't it yep yeah I

557
00:22:58,129 --> 00:22:56,080
really like those and it it's striking

558
00:23:00,330 --> 00:22:58,139
when you look at some of these

559
00:23:03,180 --> 00:23:00,340
cosmological maps of the known universe

560
00:23:04,980 --> 00:23:03,190
and all these little tendrils and things

561
00:23:07,889 --> 00:23:04,990
like that that are in the maps and then

562
00:23:08,520 --> 00:23:07,899
you take a look at a cell or something

563
00:23:10,440 --> 00:23:08,530
and you

564
00:23:14,030 --> 00:23:10,450
see the same structures and it's not to

565
00:23:17,130 --> 00:23:14,040
say that that that the cell is a

566
00:23:19,200 --> 00:23:17,140
universal for some other entities that

567
00:23:21,420 --> 00:23:19,210
could be a little bit of a crazy idea or

568
00:23:22,670 --> 00:23:21,430
maybe not but you know it the more to

569
00:23:26,010 --> 00:23:22,680
the point is that there's some

570
00:23:29,670 --> 00:23:26,020
organizing principle to our reality that

571
00:23:31,380 --> 00:23:29,680
makes things group together in large

572
00:23:33,660 --> 00:23:31,390
scales the way it makes things group

573
00:23:36,150 --> 00:23:33,670
together in small scales the way things

574
00:23:37,320 --> 00:23:36,160
communicate in large scales what the you

575
00:23:39,180 --> 00:23:37,330
know there's a similar to the way they

576
00:23:41,670 --> 00:23:39,190
communicate in small scales the way they

577
00:23:44,100 --> 00:23:41,680
form structures and so forth and that

578
00:23:46,590 --> 00:23:44,110
organizing principle what is that you

579
00:23:49,770 --> 00:23:46,600
know we we haven't discovered that from

580
00:23:53,460 --> 00:23:49,780
a scientific standpoint sometimes this

581
00:23:55,290 --> 00:23:53,470
might point to things like string theory

582
00:23:57,510 --> 00:23:55,300
or grand unified field theory or

583
00:23:59,910 --> 00:23:57,520
something like that but you know those

584
00:24:03,750 --> 00:23:59,920
are those are really things that that

585
00:24:05,970 --> 00:24:03,760
are meant to describe physical matter

586
00:24:10,280 --> 00:24:05,980
particles and not really to describe

587
00:24:12,840 --> 00:24:10,290
these megastructures of our reality so

588
00:24:14,430 --> 00:24:12,850
just the fact that they repeat at

589
00:24:16,950 --> 00:24:14,440
different scales is interesting by

590
00:24:19,470 --> 00:24:16,960
itself and kind of implies that you know

591
00:24:22,230 --> 00:24:19,480
there's some organizing force at work

592
00:24:24,270 --> 00:24:22,240
here I mean other examples of that as

593
00:24:27,060 --> 00:24:24,280
the you know the Fibonacci sequence and

594
00:24:30,720 --> 00:24:27,070
the Phi ratio that idea that there's

595
00:24:32,220 --> 00:24:30,730
just some type of code to it all and I

596
00:24:34,080 --> 00:24:32,230
spend a lot of my time in the conspiracy

597
00:24:37,670 --> 00:24:34,090
world but that kind of ties in because

598
00:24:40,650 --> 00:24:37,680
that is apparently the type of knowledge

599
00:24:42,450 --> 00:24:40,660
that secret societies have held on to

600
00:24:45,030 --> 00:24:42,460
for generations and generations and

601
00:24:46,950 --> 00:24:45,040
generations and the ultimate could be

602
00:24:49,800 --> 00:24:46,960
that they're like oh yeah well this is

603
00:24:51,600 --> 00:24:49,810
the program that we've created and you

604
00:24:54,030 --> 00:24:51,610
know we're living on top of it here and

605
00:24:55,920 --> 00:24:54,040
we could exit at any point but they

606
00:24:58,440 --> 00:24:55,930
don't have the ability to do that you

607
00:25:01,080 --> 00:24:58,450
know wouldn't that be a trip well it is

608
00:25:03,540 --> 00:25:01,090
really interesting if you agree with you

609
00:25:06,420 --> 00:25:03,550
if you go back and look at some of the

610
00:25:09,120 --> 00:25:06,430
you know the ancient texts the Sumerian

611
00:25:11,520 --> 00:25:09,130
texts or some of the the you know

612
00:25:15,470 --> 00:25:11,530
hieroglyphs that you see at various

613
00:25:17,760 --> 00:25:15,480
ancient sites and things and you know

614
00:25:21,310 --> 00:25:17,770
try to figure out what they're what

615
00:25:24,389 --> 00:25:21,320
they're telling us we tend in the pan

616
00:25:26,499 --> 00:25:24,399
we've had this sort of arrogant

617
00:25:28,720 --> 00:25:26,509
assumption that oh well they were just

618
00:25:31,240 --> 00:25:28,730
inferior to where we are now so they

619
00:25:35,200 --> 00:25:31,250
couldn't have been on to anything

620
00:25:37,690 --> 00:25:35,210
significant you know but the its it all

621
00:25:40,509 --> 00:25:37,700
it only seems to happen that the more we

622
00:25:46,090 --> 00:25:40,519
learn about our past the more surprised

623
00:25:49,480 --> 00:25:46,100
we are at how rich it was and how you

624
00:25:50,889 --> 00:25:49,490
know philosophically accurate it was or

625
00:25:52,779 --> 00:25:50,899
something like that and it's the same

626
00:25:54,700 --> 00:25:52,789
way with the way we treat animals the

627
00:25:56,320 --> 00:25:54,710
more we investigate how animals

628
00:25:58,180 --> 00:25:56,330
communicate and how they behave the more

629
00:26:01,930 --> 00:25:58,190
surprised we are that oh my gosh they

630
00:26:05,200 --> 00:26:01,940
have you know ecosystems and social

631
00:26:07,570 --> 00:26:05,210
systems just like we do why is that we

632
00:26:10,629 --> 00:26:07,580
we don't assume that in the first place

633
00:26:13,480 --> 00:26:10,639
you know why why do we have to assume

634
00:26:15,399 --> 00:26:13,490
that humans in the past and other

635
00:26:17,529 --> 00:26:15,409
species of animals are necessarily

636
00:26:21,970 --> 00:26:17,539
inferior to us and why do we have to

637
00:26:23,950 --> 00:26:21,980
assume that we humans have the at access

638
00:26:27,840 --> 00:26:23,960
to all that there is or all that there

639
00:26:29,980 --> 00:26:27,850
could be - no I think it's a it's a very

640
00:26:33,009 --> 00:26:29,990
you know arrogant point of view

641
00:26:35,320 --> 00:26:33,019
definitely yeah I mean the universe is a

642
00:26:38,470 --> 00:26:35,330
weird place we seem to figure out more

643
00:26:40,210 --> 00:26:38,480
about it all the time one actually one

644
00:26:41,619 --> 00:26:40,220
point that you've discussed in the past

645
00:26:44,769 --> 00:26:41,629
that I thought was really interesting is

646
00:26:47,259 --> 00:26:44,779
the scientific trend this pattern that

647
00:26:49,779 --> 00:26:47,269
seems to occur where every new leap and

648
00:26:52,299 --> 00:26:49,789
understanding yields a larger ratio

649
00:26:54,369 --> 00:26:52,309
between matter and empty space you know

650
00:26:57,220 --> 00:26:54,379
we kind of discover that the universe is

651
00:26:59,169 --> 00:26:57,230
more empty than it is full walk us

652
00:27:00,940 --> 00:26:59,179
through that trend a little bit and

653
00:27:03,580 --> 00:27:00,950
where do you see that trend going or

654
00:27:05,169 --> 00:27:03,590
ending if it ever ends oh sure that

655
00:27:07,299 --> 00:27:05,179
one's that one's really fascinating to

656
00:27:10,269 --> 00:27:07,309
me and it's actually a pattern that I

657
00:27:13,360 --> 00:27:10,279
just kind of noticed just a few months

658
00:27:16,480 --> 00:27:13,370
ago and I wrote a blog on it you know we

659
00:27:18,669 --> 00:27:16,490
we know that over the years we've been

660
00:27:21,399 --> 00:27:18,679
you know peering deeper and deeper into

661
00:27:25,090 --> 00:27:21,409
the atom and as we get more and more

662
00:27:26,769 --> 00:27:25,100
powerful instruments like linear Hadron

663
00:27:28,450 --> 00:27:26,779
Collider and things like that higher

664
00:27:32,649 --> 00:27:28,460
energy instruments that we can use to

665
00:27:34,210 --> 00:27:32,659
break apart things and look deeper in so

666
00:27:35,049 --> 00:27:34,220
but if you look at the kind of history

667
00:27:36,820 --> 00:27:35,059
you actually

668
00:27:40,210 --> 00:27:36,830
see a pattern you see a trend here which

669
00:27:42,159 --> 00:27:40,220
is which is was a revelation to me so

670
00:27:46,299 --> 00:27:42,169
let's go back to the ancient Greeks they

671
00:27:50,019 --> 00:27:46,309
thought that everything was made of the

672
00:27:53,409 --> 00:27:50,029
little hard billiard ball type objects

673
00:27:56,230 --> 00:27:53,419
column atoms and let's take gold for

674
00:27:58,659 --> 00:27:56,240
example the gold was you know gold bar

675
00:28:02,220 --> 00:27:58,669
consisted of a bunch of those little

676
00:28:05,049 --> 00:28:02,230
billiard ball type indivisible things

677
00:28:06,820 --> 00:28:05,059
called atoms that you were just packed

678
00:28:08,980 --> 00:28:06,830
together well if you packed together

679
00:28:10,810 --> 00:28:08,990
kind of spherical things there's going

680
00:28:14,529 --> 00:28:10,820
to be some empty space in between them

681
00:28:16,869 --> 00:28:14,539
as well and the empty space is something

682
00:28:19,299 --> 00:28:16,879
like 28 percent of the total space it

683
00:28:22,629 --> 00:28:19,309
takes up so this we didn't really

684
00:28:26,320 --> 00:28:22,639
advanced from the theory until you know

685
00:28:29,379 --> 00:28:26,330
well into the 1800s John Dalton revised

686
00:28:31,330 --> 00:28:29,389
the theory in that time and then there

687
00:28:34,060 --> 00:28:31,340
were some you know changes to the theory

688
00:28:36,720 --> 00:28:34,070
of atoms but the real breakthrough came

689
00:28:39,009 --> 00:28:36,730
in the early nineteen hundred's with

690
00:28:40,539 --> 00:28:39,019
Ernest Rutherford's experiment that

691
00:28:42,549 --> 00:28:40,549
showed that there was a nucleus to the

692
00:28:44,440 --> 00:28:42,559
atom and they were able to determine

693
00:28:46,480 --> 00:28:44,450
what the cross-section of that nucleus

694
00:28:49,869 --> 00:28:46,490
was how roughly how big that thing was

695
00:28:53,739 --> 00:28:49,879
and found out that wow you know not only

696
00:28:57,609 --> 00:28:53,749
is not not our gold bar isn't really

697
00:29:01,389 --> 00:28:57,619
just like 80 percent stuff and the word

698
00:29:03,879 --> 00:29:01,399
that I tend to use it's is more like 1

699
00:29:06,850 --> 00:29:03,889
times 10 to the minus 15 stuff so one

700
00:29:10,239 --> 00:29:06,860
part in you know I guess that would be

701
00:29:12,489 --> 00:29:10,249
maybe a thousand trillion stuff so it's

702
00:29:15,879 --> 00:29:12,499
so much it's so much empty space that

703
00:29:18,970 --> 00:29:15,889
it's almost inconceivable but but it

704
00:29:21,850 --> 00:29:18,980
didn't end there in in the 60s with

705
00:29:24,009 --> 00:29:21,860
quark theory they realized that you know

706
00:29:26,230 --> 00:29:24,019
the nucleus these protons and neutrons

707
00:29:27,609 --> 00:29:26,240
were actually composed of something else

708
00:29:29,950 --> 00:29:27,619
they're composed of quarks and those

709
00:29:33,690 --> 00:29:29,960
quarks were much much smaller and that

710
00:29:36,850 --> 00:29:33,700
most of a proton was empty space so now

711
00:29:39,060 --> 00:29:36,860
the you know and they've been able to do

712
00:29:42,129 --> 00:29:39,070
some estimates on cross-sections of

713
00:29:44,799 --> 00:29:42,139
quark now they're saying that you know

714
00:29:46,659 --> 00:29:44,809
one our gold bar is that one part in 10

715
00:29:48,910 --> 00:29:46,669
to the 28

716
00:29:51,340 --> 00:29:48,920
you know stuff and everything else is

717
00:29:53,110 --> 00:29:51,350
dspace and then the string theorists

718
00:29:55,480 --> 00:29:53,120
came came around in the 80's and 90's

719
00:29:57,160 --> 00:29:55,490
and said well you know even quarks are

720
00:29:59,310 --> 00:29:57,170
are made of something else that made of

721
00:30:04,120 --> 00:29:59,320
these little vibrating bits of string

722
00:30:06,010 --> 00:30:04,130
that that you know vibrate at different

723
00:30:09,190 --> 00:30:06,020
frequencies for different particles and

724
00:30:11,500 --> 00:30:09,200
the width of this string is what's known

725
00:30:13,450 --> 00:30:11,510
as the Planck length and the Planck

726
00:30:16,600 --> 00:30:13,460
length is something like 10 to the minus

727
00:30:18,700 --> 00:30:16,610
35 meters it's it's it's the limit of

728
00:30:21,760 --> 00:30:18,710
quantum mechanics it's the limit beyond

729
00:30:23,140 --> 00:30:21,770
what you can't probe any deeper and

730
00:30:24,730 --> 00:30:23,150
that's that's what they say the width of

731
00:30:26,560 --> 00:30:24,740
the string is so if you now if you do

732
00:30:31,240 --> 00:30:26,570
that calculation you're up to something

733
00:30:32,860 --> 00:30:31,250
like one part in 10 to the 52 and in 10

734
00:30:36,580 --> 00:30:32,870
to the you know first of all ten to the

735
00:30:39,250 --> 00:30:36,590
one part in 10 to the 30th is equivalent

736
00:30:42,790 --> 00:30:39,260
to a grain of sand is to the size of the

737
00:30:44,770 --> 00:30:42,800
earth so one part in 10 to the 52 is

738
00:30:46,420 --> 00:30:44,780
like a grain of sand you know in the

739
00:30:47,830 --> 00:30:46,430
solar system or maybe the galaxy or

740
00:30:49,480 --> 00:30:47,840
something I'm not even sure I've haven't

741
00:30:53,950 --> 00:30:49,490
done that calculation but it's it's

742
00:30:56,290 --> 00:30:53,960
ridiculously empty and you know I start

743
00:31:01,120 --> 00:30:56,300
thinking well what's the point of having

744
00:31:04,720 --> 00:31:01,130
stuff anyway the trend is that every 60

745
00:31:07,270 --> 00:31:04,730
years or so we lose about 15 orders of

746
00:31:10,330 --> 00:31:07,280
magnitude of density of our stuff in the

747
00:31:11,800 --> 00:31:10,340
in the best theories of science so if we

748
00:31:14,650 --> 00:31:11,810
keep going in that direction

749
00:31:16,270 --> 00:31:14,660
we're heading toward the you know the

750
00:31:19,000 --> 00:31:16,280
ultimate which is there really is no

751
00:31:23,680 --> 00:31:19,010
stuff it's really just data which to me

752
00:31:26,800 --> 00:31:23,690
is it's kind of one of these big trends

753
00:31:30,880 --> 00:31:26,810
that I see happening in you know

754
00:31:33,880 --> 00:31:30,890
scientific theory and as we kind of peel

755
00:31:36,370 --> 00:31:33,890
the onion of what makes all of this tick

756
00:31:38,650 --> 00:31:36,380
of what the rules are in science we peel

757
00:31:41,050 --> 00:31:38,660
it back further and further we find that

758
00:31:42,970 --> 00:31:41,060
there's less and less stuff and probably

759
00:31:45,610 --> 00:31:42,980
at the end of the day there's none all

760
00:31:47,440 --> 00:31:45,620
of this is data and rules and if you

761
00:31:51,160 --> 00:31:47,450
think about it it's a string theory if

762
00:31:53,980 --> 00:31:51,170
they're right they say that a particle

763
00:31:56,110 --> 00:31:53,990
is only defined by one number and that

764
00:31:58,360 --> 00:31:56,120
number is the frequency that that string

765
00:32:00,850 --> 00:31:58,370
is vibrating it well if you can define a

766
00:32:02,649 --> 00:32:00,860
particle by one number what do you need

767
00:32:05,799 --> 00:32:02,659
the string for anyway

768
00:32:08,889 --> 00:32:05,809
you just have the number mm-hmm you see

769
00:32:11,979 --> 00:32:08,899
what I'm saying so so you know and

770
00:32:13,690 --> 00:32:11,989
people will argue well I feel stuck you

771
00:32:16,330 --> 00:32:13,700
know I put my hand on the table and I

772
00:32:18,609 --> 00:32:16,340
and I feel this the hardness of it and

773
00:32:23,339 --> 00:32:18,619
well actually you don't what you're what

774
00:32:28,930 --> 00:32:25,989
electromagnetic charge yeah like a

775
00:32:30,909 --> 00:32:28,940
magnetic field charge of the atoms and

776
00:32:32,379 --> 00:32:30,919
your fingertips repelling against the

777
00:32:35,259 --> 00:32:32,389
electro Maddock field charge in the

778
00:32:38,889 --> 00:32:35,269
atoms of the table and what you're

779
00:32:41,769 --> 00:32:38,899
seeing is reflected light you know off

780
00:32:46,719 --> 00:32:41,779
of that and when you really think about

781
00:32:50,109 --> 00:32:46,729
this very deeply it's it's okay to say

782
00:32:53,799 --> 00:32:50,119
that everything is data and everything

783
00:32:57,609 --> 00:32:53,809
is data in the rules and so when I punch

784
00:33:00,759 --> 00:32:57,619
a wall the rule is that you know I'm

785
00:33:04,989 --> 00:33:00,769
going to I'm going to get a you know a

786
00:33:08,830 --> 00:33:04,999
sensation that is the result of the you

787
00:33:12,330 --> 00:33:08,840
know very deep rules of electromagnetic

788
00:33:15,339 --> 00:33:12,340
interaction and how they translate to

789
00:33:17,440 --> 00:33:15,349
pressure and things like that that it

790
00:33:20,589 --> 00:33:17,450
get converted into bits in my nervous

791
00:33:22,180 --> 00:33:20,599
system and get processed by my mind so

792
00:33:25,359 --> 00:33:22,190
when you really think through this stuff

793
00:33:28,599 --> 00:33:25,369
there's no evidence for any stuff at all

794
00:33:29,710 --> 00:33:28,609
and there's there's really a lot of

795
00:33:33,219 --> 00:33:29,720
evidence that we're heading toward a

796
00:33:35,080 --> 00:33:33,229
trend of recognizing that everything is

797
00:33:37,930 --> 00:33:35,090
just made of data and rules so there's

798
00:33:41,200 --> 00:33:37,940
more evidence for a you know digital

799
00:33:43,899 --> 00:33:41,210
world or a programmed world yeah man

800
00:33:45,399 --> 00:33:43,909
it's it's really hard to wrap my head

801
00:33:47,889 --> 00:33:45,409
around it and another thing another

802
00:33:49,629 --> 00:33:47,899
component of this is the idea of the

803
00:33:51,729 --> 00:33:49,639
conscious observer I mean there's been

804
00:33:57,639 --> 00:33:51,739
some experiments that seem to suggest

805
00:33:59,169 --> 00:33:57,649
that waves stay waves until they have a

806
00:34:01,089 --> 00:33:59,179
conscious observer and then they become

807
00:34:03,430 --> 00:34:01,099
particles or they make some type of

808
00:34:05,680 --> 00:34:03,440
choice again it's pretty over my head

809
00:34:07,629 --> 00:34:05,690
but it there are those studies out there

810
00:34:10,750 --> 00:34:07,639
what do you make of that what role do

811
00:34:12,869 --> 00:34:10,760
you think human consciousness plays yeah

812
00:34:16,540 --> 00:34:12,879
I think I think that's you know really

813
00:34:20,340 --> 00:34:16,550
the the way is a great question

814
00:34:23,290 --> 00:34:20,350
think that is kind of the key

815
00:34:24,190 --> 00:34:23,300
fundamental aspect of what is under

816
00:34:26,860 --> 00:34:24,200
investigation

817
00:34:29,919 --> 00:34:26,870
today in any field of science it's the

818
00:34:31,630 --> 00:34:29,929
key thing that is showing that our

819
00:34:33,700 --> 00:34:31,640
reality isn't what we think it is

820
00:34:35,680 --> 00:34:33,710
everything else that we're studying is

821
00:34:38,230 --> 00:34:35,690
just kind of peeling back the onion but

822
00:34:40,780 --> 00:34:38,240
this observer effect that you're talking

823
00:34:42,160 --> 00:34:40,790
about and some of the aspects of quantum

824
00:34:45,520 --> 00:34:42,170
mechanics or entanglement and things

825
00:34:49,120 --> 00:34:45,530
like that are showing that deep deep

826
00:34:53,260 --> 00:34:49,130
down our reality is very very different

827
00:34:55,240 --> 00:34:53,270
from the mechanistic type of approach

828
00:34:58,080 --> 00:34:55,250
that you know most scientists have

829
00:34:59,920 --> 00:34:58,090
believed over the years and in this

830
00:35:01,900 --> 00:34:59,930
experiment you're talking about this

831
00:35:05,470 --> 00:35:01,910
double slit experiment has been you know

832
00:35:08,340 --> 00:35:05,480
replicated countless times and in the

833
00:35:12,780 --> 00:35:08,350
way that it works is that every time

834
00:35:15,130 --> 00:35:12,790
human consciousness gets involved in

835
00:35:17,740 --> 00:35:15,140
observing the result of the experiment

836
00:35:22,270 --> 00:35:17,750
the experiment sort of locks into a

837
00:35:23,830 --> 00:35:22,280
particular result so you know the way

838
00:35:27,870 --> 00:35:23,840
this experiment works is you have a

839
00:35:29,920 --> 00:35:27,880
little detector on the backside of a

840
00:35:31,630 --> 00:35:29,930
effectively with a cardboard that has

841
00:35:33,400 --> 00:35:31,640
slits in it and you're shooting

842
00:35:36,940 --> 00:35:33,410
particles through that and the detector

843
00:35:38,050 --> 00:35:36,950
detects whether you know whether the

844
00:35:41,290 --> 00:35:38,060
particle went through one slit or

845
00:35:42,490 --> 00:35:41,300
another and if you have that detector

846
00:35:45,100 --> 00:35:42,500
there and you're looking at the results

847
00:35:48,850 --> 00:35:45,110
of the detector so that you as a human

848
00:35:51,940 --> 00:35:48,860
know where each particle is going

849
00:35:56,710 --> 00:35:51,950
through then you no longer get that that

850
00:35:58,990 --> 00:35:56,720
waveform but if you turn the detector

851
00:36:02,260 --> 00:35:59,000
off or if you love to detect they're on

852
00:36:04,390 --> 00:36:02,270
but somehow are not paying attention to

853
00:36:06,550 --> 00:36:04,400
the detector or you know having a you

854
00:36:10,410 --> 00:36:06,560
know a conscious observation there will

855
00:36:14,050 --> 00:36:10,420
be a waveform on on the screen so

856
00:36:16,060 --> 00:36:14,060
they've they've tried to tease out all

857
00:36:18,550 --> 00:36:16,070
the possible explanations of this weird

858
00:36:20,440 --> 00:36:18,560
effect like they used to think well

859
00:36:22,150 --> 00:36:20,450
maybe it has to do with the fact that

860
00:36:23,890 --> 00:36:22,160
the detector is stealing away a little

861
00:36:27,850 --> 00:36:23,900
bit of energy from these particles or

862
00:36:29,170 --> 00:36:27,860
something and and that was disproven not

863
00:36:34,049 --> 00:36:29,180
too long ago

864
00:36:38,529 --> 00:36:34,059
in Tel Aviv a scientific lab there and

865
00:36:42,480 --> 00:36:38,539
finally in 2008 these physicists in in

866
00:36:45,660 --> 00:36:42,490
Vienna determined to a ridiculous level

867
00:36:48,519 --> 00:36:45,670
of certainty 80 orders of certainty

868
00:36:51,099 --> 00:36:48,529
meaning the odds of this being chance

869
00:36:53,980 --> 00:36:51,109
were one in you know 10 to the 80th kind

870
00:36:56,890 --> 00:36:53,990
of thing that that reality doesn't exist

871
00:36:59,440 --> 00:36:56,900
at all until we observe it so what do I

872
00:37:01,960 --> 00:36:59,450
make of that you know I think about it

873
00:37:04,839 --> 00:37:01,970
from the programmatic standpoint if I

874
00:37:07,480 --> 00:37:04,849
were creating a reality that is

875
00:37:11,650 --> 00:37:07,490
programmatic I would do it exactly this

876
00:37:16,870 --> 00:37:11,660
way and and here's why let's say you

877
00:37:19,180 --> 00:37:16,880
want to create a coffee cup or something

878
00:37:21,220 --> 00:37:19,190
no no let's look use a tree because it's

879
00:37:23,440 --> 00:37:21,230
bigger that's the one that I typically

880
00:37:26,710 --> 00:37:23,450
use so do you really have to define

881
00:37:28,990 --> 00:37:26,720
what's inside the tree you don't and

882
00:37:31,750 --> 00:37:29,000
from a programmatic standpoint it would

883
00:37:34,599 --> 00:37:31,760
take an awful lot of memory resources

884
00:37:37,299 --> 00:37:34,609
and computational resources to calculate

885
00:37:39,339 --> 00:37:37,309
the structure of things that nobody is

886
00:37:41,440 --> 00:37:39,349
ever going to look at so you don't

887
00:37:43,750 --> 00:37:41,450
bother doing that if I are creating this

888
00:37:45,069 --> 00:37:43,760
kind of you know simulation program all

889
00:37:47,019 --> 00:37:45,079
I would create is what people can

890
00:37:50,760 --> 00:37:47,029
experience so now as soon as somebody

891
00:37:53,559 --> 00:37:50,770
cuts into the tree there have to be

892
00:37:55,539 --> 00:37:53,569
something that generates the the

893
00:37:57,309 --> 00:37:55,549
construct of the tree now if you take a

894
00:37:58,839 --> 00:37:57,319
piece out of the middle of that tree and

895
00:38:01,000 --> 00:37:58,849
put it under a microscope now there has

896
00:38:03,279 --> 00:38:01,010
to be something that generates you know

897
00:38:04,660 --> 00:38:03,289
something at a deeper level but the rest

898
00:38:07,109 --> 00:38:04,670
of the stuff on the tree we don't have

899
00:38:10,569 --> 00:38:07,119
to care about you know at that level so

900
00:38:13,329 --> 00:38:10,579
you know the further down you go in in

901
00:38:14,970 --> 00:38:13,339
this in this thinking you realize that

902
00:38:19,510 --> 00:38:14,980
once you get down to the particle level

903
00:38:22,930 --> 00:38:19,520
now I'm looking at a number of particles

904
00:38:24,849 --> 00:38:22,940
and they have to have some rules they

905
00:38:26,470 --> 00:38:24,859
have to be behaving in a certain way

906
00:38:29,920 --> 00:38:26,480
because I am measuring them I am

907
00:38:33,000 --> 00:38:29,930
observing them so now we've made those

908
00:38:35,890 --> 00:38:33,010
particles lock into a particular state

909
00:38:38,049 --> 00:38:35,900
that's exactly what happens in quantum

910
00:38:40,660 --> 00:38:38,059
mechanics called decoherence and that's

911
00:38:43,300 --> 00:38:40,670
you know that's why these effects occur

912
00:38:49,240 --> 00:38:43,310
everything else is probabilities until

913
00:38:52,810 --> 00:38:49,250
we force the program to generate reality

914
00:38:54,850 --> 00:38:52,820
you know in our minds that then then you

915
00:38:57,130 --> 00:38:54,860
get things locked in

916
00:38:59,470 --> 00:38:57,140
that's why entanglement occurs you can

917
00:39:01,930 --> 00:38:59,480
take particles and move them light-years

918
00:39:04,960 --> 00:39:01,940
apart from each other course they

919
00:39:07,300 --> 00:39:04,970
haven't been able to do that in

920
00:39:09,040 --> 00:39:07,310
experiments they've done miles and 20

921
00:39:11,980 --> 00:39:09,050
miles or something like that but they've

922
00:39:13,690 --> 00:39:11,990
proven that these things are they act as

923
00:39:16,630 --> 00:39:13,700
one particle they don't act as two

924
00:39:19,390 --> 00:39:16,640
particles anymore and the reason I would

925
00:39:22,570 --> 00:39:19,400
say is because they're following rules

926
00:39:25,330 --> 00:39:22,580
of the program in lockstep you know the

927
00:39:28,270 --> 00:39:25,340
program is saying well you know there's

928
00:39:30,040 --> 00:39:28,280
like a little state machine if you will

929
00:39:32,260 --> 00:39:30,050
you know program is saying okay when

930
00:39:35,110 --> 00:39:32,270
this particle has spin up this particle

931
00:39:37,830 --> 00:39:35,120
over here has been down and every time

932
00:39:41,380 --> 00:39:37,840
it clocks through another calculation of

933
00:39:43,240 --> 00:39:41,390
reality it it sets those two particles

934
00:39:46,000 --> 00:39:43,250
to be equivalent so for all intents and

935
00:39:49,210 --> 00:39:46,010
purposes those particles are one in the

936
00:39:51,460 --> 00:39:49,220
same it's like two two pixels on this

937
00:39:53,410 --> 00:39:51,470
computer screen that you look at every

938
00:39:56,620 --> 00:39:53,420
clock cycle that those two pixels are

939
00:39:59,470 --> 00:39:56,630
being repainted so the underlying

940
00:40:01,690 --> 00:39:59,480
construct that drives those pixels is

941
00:40:05,050 --> 00:40:01,700
something that's very consistent you can

942
00:40:07,180 --> 00:40:05,060
move those pixels you know far apart

943
00:40:09,010 --> 00:40:07,190
from each other and still every clock

944
00:40:10,300 --> 00:40:09,020
cycle though they'll get repainted it

945
00:40:11,770 --> 00:40:10,310
doesn't make any difference how far

946
00:40:13,540 --> 00:40:11,780
apart they are because they're they're

947
00:40:16,780 --> 00:40:13,550
all driven by the same underlying

948
00:40:19,540 --> 00:40:16,790
mechanism so that that to me is a

949
00:40:22,270 --> 00:40:19,550
perfect explanation for every quantum

950
00:40:26,440 --> 00:40:22,280
mechanics anomaly and I have on my my

951
00:40:29,770 --> 00:40:26,450
site actually the kind of like

952
00:40:32,260 --> 00:40:29,780
pseudocode little bits of pseudo

953
00:40:34,450 --> 00:40:32,270
software if you will that explains the

954
00:40:36,670 --> 00:40:34,460
observer effect and entanglement and

955
00:40:38,260 --> 00:40:36,680
nonlocality and all these things that

956
00:40:39,340 --> 00:40:38,270
you know the scientists are kind of

957
00:40:42,130 --> 00:40:39,350
beating our head against the wall trying

958
00:40:43,300 --> 00:40:42,140
to figure out it's perfectly logical if

959
00:40:46,210 --> 00:40:43,310
you think about it from the simulation

960
00:40:49,390 --> 00:40:46,220
standpoint yeah I mean how funny would

961
00:40:51,820 --> 00:40:49,400
it be to find out that looking outward

962
00:40:53,620 --> 00:40:51,830
into space or down under a bigger and

963
00:40:56,050 --> 00:40:53,630
bigger microscope is just fruitless

964
00:40:56,910 --> 00:40:56,060
because it will always unravel to be

965
00:40:58,800 --> 00:40:56,920
something else like

966
00:41:01,200 --> 00:40:58,810
we're like we're living in an infinite

967
00:41:04,020 --> 00:41:01,210
field of waves and the further you look

968
00:41:07,070 --> 00:41:04,030
out the universe will just manifest more

969
00:41:10,500 --> 00:41:07,080
galaxies more stars more you know

970
00:41:13,440 --> 00:41:10,510
nebulas and it just will never end yes

971
00:41:15,690 --> 00:41:13,450
exactly and it was interesting you you

972
00:41:20,820 --> 00:41:15,700
mentioned that I had a blog recently too

973
00:41:22,190 --> 00:41:20,830
about these you know sort of the another

974
00:41:28,500 --> 00:41:22,200
mega trend

975
00:41:31,170 --> 00:41:28,510
perception of all that there is is and

976
00:41:33,720 --> 00:41:31,180
it has changed maybe I don't know 9 or

977
00:41:35,820 --> 00:41:33,730
10 times over the history of humanity

978
00:41:37,860 --> 00:41:35,830
there was one point in time you could

979
00:41:40,440 --> 00:41:37,870
imagine that there were you know during

980
00:41:43,350 --> 00:41:40,450
a tribal era when people thought that

981
00:41:46,200 --> 00:41:43,360
all that existed was their tribes and

982
00:41:47,910 --> 00:41:46,210
the Dominion that they lived in and then

983
00:41:50,070 --> 00:41:47,920
along comes some other tribe from miles

984
00:41:52,640 --> 00:41:50,080
away and and conquerors of them or

985
00:41:56,280 --> 00:41:52,650
whatever and they realized wow they are

986
00:41:58,080 --> 00:41:56,290
our view of reality is much bigger than

987
00:42:00,480 --> 00:41:58,090
we previously thought it's a whole level

988
00:42:03,300 --> 00:42:00,490
bigger and it maybe expands now to a

989
00:42:04,740 --> 00:42:03,310
continent and then at some point they

990
00:42:06,330 --> 00:42:04,750
realize that while there are other

991
00:42:07,860 --> 00:42:06,340
continents on this planet and at some

992
00:42:09,510 --> 00:42:07,870
point you rise there's other planets and

993
00:42:12,660 --> 00:42:09,520
then we realize there's other solar

994
00:42:15,830 --> 00:42:12,670
systems and so on and so on and the

995
00:42:20,610 --> 00:42:15,840
interesting thing is that if you plot

996
00:42:24,560 --> 00:42:20,620
the dates at which we become aware that

997
00:42:27,630 --> 00:42:24,570
there's yet one more level of

998
00:42:31,890 --> 00:42:27,640
expansiveness to our worldview if you

999
00:42:37,590 --> 00:42:31,900
will they follow a perfect exponential

1000
00:42:40,080 --> 00:42:37,600
pattern and the last one was again and

1001
00:42:42,240 --> 00:42:40,090
say like the 1990s people like Max

1002
00:42:45,690 --> 00:42:42,250
tegmark talked about the multiverse

1003
00:42:48,570 --> 00:42:45,700
theory and postulated all kinds of ways

1004
00:42:51,000 --> 00:42:48,580
that there could be parallel realities

1005
00:42:53,850 --> 00:42:51,010
and parallel universes well weird

1006
00:42:56,520 --> 00:42:53,860
actually due for another one and there

1007
00:42:58,320 --> 00:42:56,530
there is another one and this other one

1008
00:43:01,410 --> 00:42:58,330
is exactly what we're talking about

1009
00:43:03,150 --> 00:43:01,420
tonight it's it goes a little bit beyond

1010
00:43:07,830 --> 00:43:03,160
the idea that we're just in a simulation

1011
00:43:09,240 --> 00:43:07,840
it it explores the idea that if we're in

1012
00:43:10,500 --> 00:43:09,250
a simulation there is something that

1013
00:43:15,450 --> 00:43:10,510
created it so

1014
00:43:17,640 --> 00:43:15,460
therefore all that we can know is in the

1015
00:43:21,900 --> 00:43:17,650
simulation but there's something else

1016
00:43:25,230 --> 00:43:21,910
out there that created it and what that

1017
00:43:27,150 --> 00:43:25,240
reality is is beyond the multiverse

1018
00:43:30,540 --> 00:43:27,160
concept because a multiverse concept

1019
00:43:33,630 --> 00:43:30,550
still talks about physical realities the

1020
00:43:36,600 --> 00:43:33,640
you know the next level of thinking here

1021
00:43:39,000 --> 00:43:36,610
is non-physical realities and and this

1022
00:43:43,440 --> 00:43:39,010
is where folks like Tom Campbell and

1023
00:43:45,630 --> 00:43:43,450
Stephen Kaufman go into you know sort of

1024
00:43:50,870 --> 00:43:45,640
a bigger description of what all that

1025
00:43:53,820 --> 00:43:50,880
there is could be it's interesting that

1026
00:43:55,830 --> 00:43:53,830
if if you don't think about that you're

1027
00:43:58,470 --> 00:43:55,840
you're always in kind of a bubble and

1028
00:44:00,330 --> 00:43:58,480
your bubble is everything that you know

1029
00:44:03,480 --> 00:44:00,340
and so therefore you have to explain

1030
00:44:05,970 --> 00:44:03,490
everything that you observe by by what's

1031
00:44:09,450 --> 00:44:05,980
within your bubble but if you can

1032
00:44:12,780 --> 00:44:09,460
somehow understand that there's

1033
00:44:16,650 --> 00:44:12,790
something outside of that bubble and try

1034
00:44:19,770 --> 00:44:16,660
to infer what that is or maybe travel to

1035
00:44:22,560 --> 00:44:19,780
it or whatever and I think we do travel

1036
00:44:27,270 --> 00:44:22,570
to that when we you know travel you know

1037
00:44:30,270 --> 00:44:27,280
consciously then you can realize that

1038
00:44:34,230 --> 00:44:30,280
that the you know that the mechanisms

1039
00:44:36,090 --> 00:44:34,240
that created our bubble are different

1040
00:44:37,410 --> 00:44:36,100
and they can explain some of the things

1041
00:44:40,440 --> 00:44:37,420
that we see it gives you a whole

1042
00:44:42,480 --> 00:44:40,450
different perspective on the world that

1043
00:44:44,940 --> 00:44:42,490
we're living in and the purpose that we

1044
00:44:46,950 --> 00:44:44,950
have and things like that so it's a

1045
00:44:48,750 --> 00:44:46,960
really very interesting to kind of go

1046
00:44:52,050 --> 00:44:48,760
down that path and it's a little bit

1047
00:44:54,540 --> 00:44:52,060
beyond just pure simulation theory it's

1048
00:44:54,930 --> 00:44:54,550
you know it's what's what else is out

1049
00:44:57,810 --> 00:44:54,940
there

1050
00:45:01,350 --> 00:44:57,820
you know well on the subject of the

1051
00:45:04,140 --> 00:45:01,360
bubble of being in the program what is

1052
00:45:06,150 --> 00:45:04,150
are there any clues to suggest what

1053
00:45:08,040 --> 00:45:06,160
could possibly be there what we could

1054
00:45:12,180 --> 00:45:08,050
possibly see if someone pulled the plug

1055
00:45:17,820 --> 00:45:12,190
on that program yeah I think when when

1056
00:45:20,610 --> 00:45:17,830
people die they they get a clue I don't

1057
00:45:22,890 --> 00:45:20,620
know if you've followed much of the the

1058
00:45:23,920 --> 00:45:22,900
near-death experience research or say

1059
00:45:26,980 --> 00:45:23,930
out-of-body

1060
00:45:29,710 --> 00:45:26,990
Ariane's research but these are yeah

1061
00:45:31,450 --> 00:45:29,720
these are these are cases and it's not

1062
00:45:33,280 --> 00:45:31,460
this isn't pseudoscience I mean these

1063
00:45:37,210 --> 00:45:33,290
are real scientific studies that have

1064
00:45:42,430 --> 00:45:37,220
been done you know over many years that

1065
00:45:45,490 --> 00:45:42,440
there there is a consistency of reports

1066
00:45:48,280 --> 00:45:45,500
that people have their behavior changes

1067
00:45:53,290 --> 00:45:48,290
after these things which wouldn't make

1068
00:45:56,290 --> 00:45:53,300
sense if it was hallucinatory you know

1069
00:45:59,650 --> 00:45:56,300
there are things that they experience

1070
00:46:04,720 --> 00:45:59,660
that that then can be corroborated later

1071
00:46:08,350 --> 00:46:04,730
on like you know past life regressions

1072
00:46:10,690 --> 00:46:08,360
perhaps or you know telepathy or

1073
00:46:13,690 --> 00:46:10,700
clairvoyance or something like that

1074
00:46:16,090 --> 00:46:13,700
remote viewing I mean you know the army

1075
00:46:18,660 --> 00:46:16,100
funded remote viewing for like 20 years

1076
00:46:20,950 --> 00:46:18,670
so you know it wasn't it wasn't that

1077
00:46:22,420 --> 00:46:20,960
that didn't work I think they would have

1078
00:46:24,310 --> 00:46:22,430
killed the program it didn't work at all

1079
00:46:27,700 --> 00:46:24,320
right there are only years that they

1080
00:46:30,250 --> 00:46:27,710
tell us about yeah exactly so anyway

1081
00:46:33,450 --> 00:46:30,260
these these things go outside of the

1082
00:46:35,470 --> 00:46:33,460
bubble that I referred to before and so

1083
00:46:38,710 --> 00:46:35,480
this is evidence

1084
00:46:41,740 --> 00:46:38,720
it's Trickey evidence because it isn't

1085
00:46:43,810 --> 00:46:41,750
necessarily as reproducible as fine a

1086
00:46:45,270 --> 00:46:43,820
lot of scientists would like mm-hmm

1087
00:46:47,560 --> 00:46:45,280
science science isn't all about

1088
00:46:49,270 --> 00:46:47,570
reproducibility you know something is in

1089
00:46:53,980 --> 00:46:49,280
science just because it's reproducible

1090
00:46:57,160 --> 00:46:53,990
there's lots of things that take you

1091
00:46:59,760 --> 00:46:57,170
know geology for example you know

1092
00:47:02,380 --> 00:46:59,770
scientists try to infer why a particular

1093
00:47:04,840 --> 00:47:02,390
geological formation occurred that

1094
00:47:07,120 --> 00:47:04,850
formation will never occur again exactly

1095
00:47:09,220 --> 00:47:07,130
as it was it may have been due to a

1096
00:47:13,420 --> 00:47:09,230
unique event a meteor or something like

1097
00:47:16,870 --> 00:47:13,430
that so reproducibility isn't isn't

1098
00:47:19,560 --> 00:47:16,880
required for us for science a sum total

1099
00:47:22,150 --> 00:47:19,570
of a lot of anecdotal information or

1100
00:47:24,250 --> 00:47:22,160
survey information things like that is

1101
00:47:28,150 --> 00:47:24,260
real science and in Psychological

1102
00:47:31,030 --> 00:47:28,160
studies that's real science so yeah so I

1103
00:47:31,510 --> 00:47:31,040
don't I got now you go for it I'm here

1104
00:47:34,600 --> 00:47:31,520
all the time

1105
00:47:37,970 --> 00:47:34,610
yeah no you're gonna say that you know

1106
00:47:39,950 --> 00:47:37,980
these kinds of studies into what might

1107
00:47:42,200 --> 00:47:39,960
why is be called paranormal just because

1108
00:47:44,690 --> 00:47:42,210
it doesn't fit in with the sort of

1109
00:47:48,109 --> 00:47:44,700
materialist paradigm these kind of

1110
00:47:51,980 --> 00:47:48,119
studies are exploring you know that next

1111
00:47:52,910 --> 00:47:51,990
level of quote all that there is and I

1112
00:47:58,160 --> 00:47:52,920
think that's really really interesting

1113
00:47:59,690 --> 00:47:58,170
is it's almost like that's the that's

1114
00:48:01,400 --> 00:47:59,700
the beauty of the design is that the

1115
00:48:04,940 --> 00:48:01,410
illusion is so strong we talked about

1116
00:48:06,800 --> 00:48:04,950
the discoveries that the unit the world

1117
00:48:08,840 --> 00:48:06,810
that we think is made up of stuff is

1118
00:48:11,000 --> 00:48:08,850
mostly empty you know the illusion is

1119
00:48:13,250 --> 00:48:11,010
very strong and I think that that's the

1120
00:48:14,900 --> 00:48:13,260
kicker to it is that these types of

1121
00:48:16,760 --> 00:48:14,910
out-of-body experience I kind of think

1122
00:48:20,300 --> 00:48:16,770
out of body experience near-death

1123
00:48:21,680 --> 00:48:20,310
experiences dreams psychedelic trips I

1124
00:48:23,540 --> 00:48:21,690
mean even the fact that we call them

1125
00:48:25,970 --> 00:48:23,550
trips you know that's like a journey you

1126
00:48:27,170 --> 00:48:25,980
know I do think that those kind of

1127
00:48:29,750 --> 00:48:27,180
things are all related and they're all

1128
00:48:32,330 --> 00:48:29,760
clues but the funny thing about it the

1129
00:48:34,130 --> 00:48:32,340
big joke is that you can only have that

1130
00:48:36,620 --> 00:48:34,140
experience for yourself so you may get a

1131
00:48:38,000 --> 00:48:36,630
clue a major clue about what exists

1132
00:48:39,230 --> 00:48:38,010
outside the bubble but you can't share

1133
00:48:41,540 --> 00:48:39,240
it with anyone it's like trying to

1134
00:48:43,790 --> 00:48:41,550
explain the color green to a guy has

1135
00:48:46,609 --> 00:48:43,800
been blindness whole life absolutely

1136
00:48:48,710 --> 00:48:46,619
absolutely and you know this is yeah I

1137
00:48:52,760 --> 00:48:48,720
thought about all of this in the sense

1138
00:48:55,570 --> 00:48:52,770
of a sort of a I don't know like a line

1139
00:48:58,700 --> 00:48:55,580
or a spectrum of what I would call

1140
00:49:01,550 --> 00:48:58,710
consensus reality so when you dream

1141
00:49:05,330 --> 00:49:01,560
you're you're by yourself you're you're

1142
00:49:08,330 --> 00:49:05,340
in your own mind and you're experiencing

1143
00:49:10,160 --> 00:49:08,340
something some energy some

1144
00:49:12,830 --> 00:49:10,170
organizational structure of an

1145
00:49:16,550 --> 00:49:12,840
experience right you're experiencing

1146
00:49:19,820 --> 00:49:16,560
that but you're doing it maybe by

1147
00:49:23,030 --> 00:49:19,830
yourself and so therefore you have the

1148
00:49:25,340 --> 00:49:23,040
freedom to make of it what you will if

1149
00:49:29,359 --> 00:49:25,350
you can loose a dream you can you can

1150
00:49:31,520 --> 00:49:29,369
now mold it and so forth now there are

1151
00:49:35,349 --> 00:49:31,530
studies of people who do mutual lucid

1152
00:49:38,240 --> 00:49:35,359
dreaming and now when when that happens

1153
00:49:40,730 --> 00:49:38,250
the people who are mutual lucid dreaming

1154
00:49:42,740 --> 00:49:40,740
there's a little bit of consensus that

1155
00:49:45,590 --> 00:49:42,750
has to happen they they have to

1156
00:49:46,880 --> 00:49:45,600
experience the same thing in a similar

1157
00:49:50,080 --> 00:49:46,890
way it doesn't have to necessarily be

1158
00:49:51,950 --> 00:49:50,090
exact but it's more toward that

1159
00:49:54,260 --> 00:49:51,960
consensus reality

1160
00:49:58,070 --> 00:49:54,270
the spectrum and not toward the you know

1161
00:50:02,240 --> 00:49:58,080
personal fantasy type of the spectrum in

1162
00:50:04,730 --> 00:50:02,250
our day-to-day reality were very much

1163
00:50:06,980 --> 00:50:04,740
toward the consensus reality end of the

1164
00:50:09,140 --> 00:50:06,990
spectrum because a car drives by and

1165
00:50:11,089 --> 00:50:09,150
it's blue and you see it nicely and we

1166
00:50:14,630 --> 00:50:11,099
have to both say hey you know we saw the

1167
00:50:16,640 --> 00:50:14,640
same thing but you know so we have this

1168
00:50:21,349 --> 00:50:16,650
consensus and that's what makes us think

1169
00:50:23,480 --> 00:50:21,359
that this physical reality is so quote

1170
00:50:26,810 --> 00:50:23,490
real and that the other stuff is not

1171
00:50:29,260 --> 00:50:26,820
it's just the consensus but a consensus

1172
00:50:35,270 --> 00:50:29,270
can be generated programmatically -

1173
00:50:37,520 --> 00:50:35,280
you're playing a reality game on the

1174
00:50:40,040 --> 00:50:37,530
computer with a bunch of people you know

1175
00:50:42,470 --> 00:50:40,050
logged in from around the world and

1176
00:50:44,300 --> 00:50:42,480
everybody has shown the exact same thing

1177
00:50:46,370 --> 00:50:44,310
and a blue car drives by and you say to

1178
00:50:48,440 --> 00:50:46,380
some guy in Japan hey did you see that

1179
00:50:50,900 --> 00:50:48,450
blue car he says yeah I saw it - because

1180
00:50:54,349 --> 00:50:50,910
the program has has presented that to

1181
00:50:56,120 --> 00:50:54,359
both of you now you feel like wow now I

1182
00:50:57,260 --> 00:50:56,130
can really trust what I'm seeing because

1183
00:50:59,690 --> 00:50:57,270
everybody else is seeing the same thing

1184
00:51:01,250 --> 00:50:59,700
but what if what if that guy has shown

1185
00:51:05,540 --> 00:51:01,260
something different shown something

1186
00:51:09,380 --> 00:51:05,550
because of his level of expertise or his

1187
00:51:11,810 --> 00:51:09,390
level of knowledge or his health points

1188
00:51:14,599 --> 00:51:11,820
or whatever it is and this happens in

1189
00:51:16,160 --> 00:51:14,609
games it's an easy thing to program now

1190
00:51:19,790 --> 00:51:16,170
you have a little bit less consensus

1191
00:51:23,089 --> 00:51:19,800
that guy sees the UFO and I don't see it

1192
00:51:24,710 --> 00:51:23,099
or that guy experiences the monster in a

1193
00:51:27,950 --> 00:51:24,720
different way than I do

1194
00:51:31,720 --> 00:51:27,960
it's all very possible and it explains

1195
00:51:34,160 --> 00:51:31,730
all of our less-than-perfect

1196
00:51:36,320 --> 00:51:34,170
experiences of reality when compared to

1197
00:51:38,120 --> 00:51:36,330
what other people experience but happens

1198
00:51:39,380 --> 00:51:38,130
a lot of times people will say well I

1199
00:51:43,550 --> 00:51:39,390
thought one thing and somebody else saw

1200
00:51:46,820 --> 00:51:43,560
something else that's ok is that that

1201
00:51:49,190 --> 00:51:46,830
all fits within this paradigm you know

1202
00:51:52,160 --> 00:51:49,200
on the subject of lucid dreaming it's

1203
00:51:54,650 --> 00:51:52,170
almost like lucid dreaming is the

1204
00:51:57,680 --> 00:51:54,660
placebo effect of that plane because it

1205
00:52:00,770 --> 00:51:57,690
almost ties into the power of thought

1206
00:52:02,359 --> 00:52:00,780
because in a dream 9 out of 10 times you

1207
00:52:03,260 --> 00:52:02,369
think everything is real you think the

1208
00:52:04,690 --> 00:52:03,270
danger is real

1209
00:52:06,550 --> 00:52:04,700
everything that's

1210
00:52:08,890 --> 00:52:06,560
that in your waking life you'd look at

1211
00:52:11,560 --> 00:52:08,900
is wow that was completely strange and

1212
00:52:13,690 --> 00:52:11,570
impossible it seems very real but then

1213
00:52:14,859 --> 00:52:13,700
there's these people who have lucid

1214
00:52:16,630 --> 00:52:14,869
dreams where they just completely

1215
00:52:19,870 --> 00:52:16,640
realize it isn't and completely take

1216
00:52:21,250 --> 00:52:19,880
control of it and then you know in our

1217
00:52:23,740 --> 00:52:21,260
waking life we have this thing the

1218
00:52:26,620 --> 00:52:23,750
placebo effect which is a very similar

1219
00:52:28,839 --> 00:52:26,630
thing just just nerfed it's very nerfed

1220
00:52:31,150 --> 00:52:28,849
but um you know if there's plenty of

1221
00:52:32,829 --> 00:52:31,160
cases of people who get better because

1222
00:52:34,810 --> 00:52:32,839
they believe that they were given

1223
00:52:37,599 --> 00:52:34,820
medicine when in reality they were given

1224
00:52:39,849 --> 00:52:37,609
sugar pills or whatever it's very

1225
00:52:41,620 --> 00:52:39,859
strange I mean how far do you think you

1226
00:52:42,609 --> 00:52:41,630
could follow that thread do you how far

1227
00:52:45,220 --> 00:52:42,619
do you much do you think you can

1228
00:52:47,530 --> 00:52:45,230
manifest your own reality if at all

1229
00:52:49,780 --> 00:52:47,540
yeah so I think I think this is very

1230
00:52:53,740 --> 00:52:49,790
much related to the observer effect that

1231
00:52:56,310 --> 00:52:53,750
we talked about before when when we when

1232
00:53:00,310 --> 00:52:56,320
our consciousness interacts with matter

1233
00:53:01,839 --> 00:53:00,320
we create a reality we in the quantum

1234
00:53:03,280 --> 00:53:01,849
mechanical terms we collapse that

1235
00:53:08,370 --> 00:53:03,290
wavefunction we collapse that

1236
00:53:12,339 --> 00:53:08,380
probability into an actual place in time

1237
00:53:16,870 --> 00:53:12,349
because of that the program has to do

1238
00:53:19,120 --> 00:53:16,880
that so the same thing happens with our

1239
00:53:23,319 --> 00:53:19,130
future our future is all probabilities

1240
00:53:26,620 --> 00:53:23,329
isn't it and if this physical reality is

1241
00:53:28,930 --> 00:53:26,630
really just virtual it's just data that

1242
00:53:32,620 --> 00:53:28,940
were that were consciously processing

1243
00:53:34,809 --> 00:53:32,630
then we have more control for things

1244
00:53:35,980 --> 00:53:34,819
that are further in the future than we

1245
00:53:37,569 --> 00:53:35,990
do for things that are going to happen

1246
00:53:39,339 --> 00:53:37,579
in one second because remember the stuff

1247
00:53:41,970 --> 00:53:39,349
that's going to happen in one second has

1248
00:53:44,620 --> 00:53:41,980
to fit with everybody else's consensus

1249
00:53:46,390 --> 00:53:44,630
so you got a guy sitting next to you and

1250
00:53:48,790 --> 00:53:46,400
and the two of you are watching a

1251
00:53:51,400 --> 00:53:48,800
baseball game and one of you tries to

1252
00:53:52,750 --> 00:53:51,410
you know consciously make the the player

1253
00:53:54,220 --> 00:53:52,760
hit a homerun and the other one tries to

1254
00:53:58,660 --> 00:53:54,230
constantly make the player strike out

1255
00:54:00,849 --> 00:53:58,670
you know you can't both win that so only

1256
00:54:04,000 --> 00:54:00,859
one of those things is going to happen

1257
00:54:07,390 --> 00:54:04,010
whereas you know further out in the

1258
00:54:09,730 --> 00:54:07,400
future there isn't so much you're not so

1259
00:54:11,920 --> 00:54:09,740
close to a consensus or a locked-in

1260
00:54:13,480 --> 00:54:11,930
thing you can influence things further

1261
00:54:15,670 --> 00:54:13,490
out into the future I mean that

1262
00:54:16,950 --> 00:54:15,680
theoretically that all makes kind of

1263
00:54:18,260 --> 00:54:16,960
sense to me

1264
00:54:20,720 --> 00:54:18,270
you know the

1265
00:54:22,940 --> 00:54:20,730
gram is you know if you believe in this

1266
00:54:25,940 --> 00:54:22,950
kind of construct and and I always say

1267
00:54:28,280 --> 00:54:25,950
that I'm not you know 1% sure of it but

1268
00:54:30,770 --> 00:54:28,290
the evidence my book is about evidence

1269
00:54:34,000 --> 00:54:30,780
it's not about you know I know this to

1270
00:54:38,900 --> 00:54:34,010
be true or anything but if you you know

1271
00:54:42,050 --> 00:54:38,910
you kind of think about this you know

1272
00:54:45,020 --> 00:54:42,060
this power of positive thinking in a

1273
00:54:48,040 --> 00:54:45,030
kind of aspect to it then you know

1274
00:54:51,400 --> 00:54:48,050
really there's no reason why you can't

1275
00:54:55,280 --> 00:54:51,410
control your destiny to some extent

1276
00:54:57,890 --> 00:54:55,290
interact with people through means other

1277
00:54:58,880 --> 00:54:57,900
than our normal communication and all

1278
00:55:01,640 --> 00:54:58,890
these kind of things that could be

1279
00:55:03,410 --> 00:55:01,650
possible in in a program we don't

1280
00:55:07,730 --> 00:55:03,420
necessarily know what the rules are of

1281
00:55:10,280 --> 00:55:07,740
this simulation we push the boundaries

1282
00:55:12,340 --> 00:55:10,290
of them with studies like remote viewing

1283
00:55:15,980 --> 00:55:12,350
and experiences like near-death

1284
00:55:17,600 --> 00:55:15,990
experiences and so forth and through

1285
00:55:19,400 --> 00:55:17,610
those studies we're starting to learn a

1286
00:55:21,470 --> 00:55:19,410
little bit about what we can do and what

1287
00:55:25,580 --> 00:55:21,480
we can't do the placebo effect is

1288
00:55:27,050 --> 00:55:25,590
showing us that we real our minds which

1289
00:55:29,780 --> 00:55:27,060
are not in our brains our minds are

1290
00:55:33,820 --> 00:55:29,790
probably somewhere else really really

1291
00:55:36,170 --> 00:55:33,830
can influence and change our outcomes

1292
00:55:37,760 --> 00:55:36,180
well it's funny because the idea of

1293
00:55:39,620 --> 00:55:37,770
manifesting the reality I would love for

1294
00:55:42,950 --> 00:55:39,630
it to be true but I have so much doubt

1295
00:55:44,660 --> 00:55:42,960
and in the conspiracy world a lot of

1296
00:55:47,690 --> 00:55:44,670
people believe that the elites main

1297
00:55:50,630 --> 00:55:47,700
objective through media manipulation and

1298
00:55:52,910 --> 00:55:50,640
news manipulation is to create doubt and

1299
00:55:54,530 --> 00:55:52,920
to create fear because maybe the

1300
00:55:57,350 --> 00:55:54,540
manifesting of reality is completely

1301
00:55:59,420 --> 00:55:57,360
possible if you believe it but yet we're

1302
00:56:02,000 --> 00:55:59,430
conditioned to have so much doubt in

1303
00:56:03,950 --> 00:56:02,010
ourselves that no one ever really can

1304
00:56:05,620 --> 00:56:03,960
commit 100% to the premise because

1305
00:56:08,720 --> 00:56:05,630
they've just gone through decades of

1306
00:56:10,430 --> 00:56:08,730
being told that that's [\h__\h] yeah I

1307
00:56:12,980 --> 00:56:10,440
think that that's that's really

1308
00:56:17,050 --> 00:56:12,990
insightful I think that's a a good way

1309
00:56:22,790 --> 00:56:17,060
of looking at it that if if we were

1310
00:56:24,260 --> 00:56:22,800
fully free to and this is one of Tom

1311
00:56:29,360 --> 00:56:24,270
Campbell's arguments if we were fully

1312
00:56:32,000 --> 00:56:29,370
free to make of our reality what we want

1313
00:56:36,260 --> 00:56:32,010
to make of it we wouldn't learn

1314
00:56:38,480 --> 00:56:36,270
as much as we do and you know in in his

1315
00:56:42,620 --> 00:56:38,490
philosophy and this was something that

1316
00:56:43,970 --> 00:56:42,630
kind of resonates with me and to be

1317
00:56:45,140 --> 00:56:43,980
honest with you know from a standpoint

1318
00:56:48,320 --> 00:56:45,150
of digital philosophy and digital

1319
00:56:49,640 --> 00:56:48,330
physics there's a lot of different views

1320
00:56:51,220 --> 00:56:49,650
and a lot of different people out there

1321
00:56:56,000 --> 00:56:51,230
who have been thinking about this stuff

1322
00:56:59,300 --> 00:56:56,010
you know it's important that that we not

1323
00:57:01,550 --> 00:56:59,310
be able to fully influence everything if

1324
00:57:03,680 --> 00:57:01,560
everybody was able to influence whatever

1325
00:57:07,910 --> 00:57:03,690
that they wanted they wouldn't learn as

1326
00:57:11,960 --> 00:57:07,920
much so you know some of the constraints

1327
00:57:13,640 --> 00:57:11,970
that we have in terms of what we can how

1328
00:57:15,230 --> 00:57:13,650
we can communicate with others what we

1329
00:57:17,180 --> 00:57:15,240
can know about what's outside of the

1330
00:57:19,790 --> 00:57:17,190
bubble what we can know about a past

1331
00:57:21,970 --> 00:57:19,800
life if we had them those kind of

1332
00:57:26,510 --> 00:57:21,980
constraints are important so that we can

1333
00:57:30,140 --> 00:57:26,520
learn faster and and you know add to the

1334
00:57:33,530 --> 00:57:30,150
overall evolution of our ourselves all

1335
00:57:36,590 --> 00:57:33,540
right if you if you were to plot the

1336
00:57:39,110 --> 00:57:36,600
amount of knowledge or wisdom that you

1337
00:57:41,000 --> 00:57:39,120
attain it probably is very steep earlier

1338
00:57:44,240 --> 00:57:41,010
in your life but as you get you know

1339
00:57:47,960 --> 00:57:44,250
older it flattens out and and you don't

1340
00:57:50,920 --> 00:57:47,970
you know gain that much more so the the

1341
00:57:55,700 --> 00:57:50,930
system if you will in order to optimize

1342
00:58:00,140 --> 00:57:55,710
how much you know consciousness quality

1343
00:58:05,030 --> 00:58:00,150
there there is it would have to you know

1344
00:58:08,000 --> 00:58:05,040
encourage entities to to live you know

1345
00:58:10,490 --> 00:58:08,010
early in this cycle so perhaps that's

1346
00:58:12,950 --> 00:58:10,500
why there's death perhaps that's that's

1347
00:58:14,750 --> 00:58:12,960
why we reincarnate you know this is all

1348
00:58:18,080 --> 00:58:14,760
something that kind of fits in this

1349
00:58:20,810 --> 00:58:18,090
theory yeah man it's it's super

1350
00:58:23,600 --> 00:58:20,820
fascinating it kind of has a lot of

1351
00:58:25,310 --> 00:58:23,610
parallels to the Zen philosophy that you

1352
00:58:27,530 --> 00:58:25,320
know we just are the universe the main

1353
00:58:29,510 --> 00:58:27,540
difference just being you know is there

1354
00:58:31,310 --> 00:58:29,520
are we the Creator are we the programmer

1355
00:58:33,230 --> 00:58:31,320
or is there some external programmer

1356
00:58:36,230 --> 00:58:33,240
because I guess the big question is how

1357
00:58:37,910 --> 00:58:36,240
does the program decide to put rings on

1358
00:58:39,740 --> 00:58:37,920
the inside of a tree trunk when you cut

1359
00:58:41,810 --> 00:58:39,750
it open you know does it come from our

1360
00:58:45,650 --> 00:58:41,820
own subconscious what we would expect to

1361
00:58:48,079 --> 00:58:45,660
see we see or is the program use

1362
00:58:51,109 --> 00:58:48,089
some other algorithm to create that

1363
00:58:52,670 --> 00:58:51,119
stuff you know the fun it's kind of one

1364
00:58:56,000 --> 00:58:52,680
of the fundamental questions yeah it's a

1365
00:58:58,990 --> 00:58:56,010
good question and I think kind of using

1366
00:59:01,760 --> 00:58:59,000
sort of a collection of ideas from

1367
00:59:04,450 --> 00:59:01,770
shamanistic thinking's and philosophy

1368
00:59:06,559 --> 00:59:04,460
modern digital philosophy so the program

1369
00:59:10,960 --> 00:59:06,569
if you want to call it that or the

1370
00:59:16,220 --> 00:59:10,970
system has evolved and it's evolved to

1371
00:59:20,539 --> 00:59:16,230
learn to do what is best so if the best

1372
00:59:24,980 --> 00:59:20,549
thing is for for it to be really

1373
00:59:26,440 --> 00:59:24,990
efficient and generate those you know

1374
00:59:28,910 --> 00:59:26,450
the content of the Rings of the trees

1375
00:59:30,079 --> 00:59:28,920
then that's what it's going to evolve to

1376
00:59:31,490 --> 00:59:30,089
I mean if you think about sort of the

1377
00:59:34,640 --> 00:59:31,500
theory of natural selection

1378
00:59:38,690 --> 00:59:34,650
Darwin's theory follows a similar type

1379
00:59:41,720 --> 00:59:38,700
of approach you know the sheep that have

1380
00:59:45,079 --> 00:59:41,730
the thicker wool in the high cold

1381
00:59:48,260 --> 00:59:45,089
altitudes tend to pass on their genes

1382
00:59:51,200 --> 00:59:48,270
more whereas the others don't so an

1383
00:59:54,410 --> 00:59:51,210
artificial intelligence or a system of

1384
00:59:57,769 --> 00:59:54,420
consciousness that is evolving is going

1385
00:59:59,990 --> 00:59:57,779
to do different experiments and the the

1386
01:00:02,029 --> 01:00:00,000
experiments that have positive or

1387
01:00:04,490 --> 01:00:02,039
profitable results will get encouraged

1388
01:00:06,470 --> 01:00:04,500
in the ones that don't won't and the

1389
01:00:10,549 --> 01:00:06,480
thing will eventually evolve to be

1390
01:00:14,390 --> 01:00:10,559
efficient so this this actually you know

1391
01:00:15,859 --> 01:00:14,400
it I read a book recently a Zen book and

1392
01:00:17,960 --> 01:00:15,869
they read a passage in it and I thought

1393
01:00:19,970 --> 01:00:17,970
oh my gosh it sounds exactly like

1394
01:00:25,309 --> 01:00:19,980
digital philosophy and it's it's amazing

1395
01:00:27,529 --> 01:00:25,319
that people thought the same way as you

1396
01:00:30,400 --> 01:00:27,539
know some of us who are in the field are

1397
01:00:34,430 --> 01:00:30,410
thinking now and we've come at it from

1398
01:00:38,660 --> 01:00:34,440
technology and physics and all these

1399
01:00:42,109 --> 01:00:38,670
different different you know fields but

1400
01:00:44,329 --> 01:00:42,119
but it's matching and that's really cool

1401
01:00:46,279 --> 01:00:44,339
that's almost it's almost telling us

1402
01:00:48,170 --> 01:00:46,289
we're onto something yeah there

1403
01:00:50,240 --> 01:00:48,180
definitely seems to be this meeting in

1404
01:00:53,359 --> 01:00:50,250
the middle between psychedelic

1405
01:00:56,809 --> 01:00:53,369
adventures certain religions and old

1406
01:00:58,370 --> 01:00:56,819
Gnostic ideas and modern science it's

1407
01:00:59,510 --> 01:00:58,380
it's pretty it is a pretty interesting

1408
01:01:01,940 --> 01:00:59,520
culmination and

1409
01:01:04,730 --> 01:01:01,950
it's funny because if you look at

1410
01:01:08,090 --> 01:01:04,740
history how oppose these different areas

1411
01:01:10,880 --> 01:01:08,100
were and as they all advance they all

1412
01:01:13,570 --> 01:01:10,890
seem to be you know coming to the middle

1413
01:01:17,180 --> 01:01:13,580
maybe we're getting close to something

1414
01:01:20,210 --> 01:01:17,190
yeah and I think I think we are and I

1415
01:01:22,030 --> 01:01:20,220
think that it's it's important to stay

1416
01:01:25,400 --> 01:01:22,040
open-minded and I think that there are

1417
01:01:28,580 --> 01:01:25,410
very close close minded individuals on

1418
01:01:29,900 --> 01:01:28,590
both sides of that fence and some of

1419
01:01:33,170 --> 01:01:29,910
them are pretty loud and it's

1420
01:01:35,840 --> 01:01:33,180
unfortunate because you know all we're

1421
01:01:39,200 --> 01:01:35,850
trying to do is is seek the truth here

1422
01:01:41,720 --> 01:01:39,210
and and do it without you know being

1423
01:01:43,460 --> 01:01:41,730
told what we're allowed to think of what

1424
01:01:45,650 --> 01:01:43,470
we're not allowed to think right well

1425
01:01:48,500 --> 01:01:45,660
it's it's another curious thing not to

1426
01:01:51,470 --> 01:01:48,510
be too conspiratorial but are those

1427
01:01:54,830 --> 01:01:51,480
dogmatic voices in science you know are

1428
01:01:56,690 --> 01:01:54,840
they popular because the people who

1429
01:01:58,520 --> 01:01:56,700
don't want us to know the truth are in

1430
01:01:59,900 --> 01:01:58,530
charge of the media or in charge of what

1431
01:02:01,670 --> 01:01:59,910
we see and who gets to be the loudest

1432
01:02:03,890 --> 01:02:01,680
voice and they purposely put those

1433
01:02:06,109 --> 01:02:03,900
people up there for a reason

1434
01:02:08,750 --> 01:02:06,119
just to keep us in the dark a little bit

1435
01:02:10,760 --> 01:02:08,760
longer I don't know yeah I don't know I

1436
01:02:13,190 --> 01:02:10,770
I tend to think a little differently I

1437
01:02:17,660 --> 01:02:13,200
think that I think it was a Gandhi who

1438
01:02:19,760 --> 01:02:17,670
once said an expert is someone who knows

1439
01:02:22,340 --> 01:02:19,770
more and more about less and less until

1440
01:02:25,240 --> 01:02:22,350
they know everything about nothing and

1441
01:02:28,400 --> 01:02:25,250
and that's not to disparage you know

1442
01:02:31,310 --> 01:02:28,410
anyone who has gotten their PhD in a

1443
01:02:34,130 --> 01:02:31,320
particular field or some advanced degree

1444
01:02:35,990 --> 01:02:34,140
or really focuses on being an expert in

1445
01:02:39,230 --> 01:02:36,000
a very narrow thing but you can't be an

1446
01:02:42,109 --> 01:02:39,240
expert in everything so when you are an

1447
01:02:45,950 --> 01:02:42,119
expert in a very narrow field which tend

1448
01:02:49,430 --> 01:02:45,960
to be scientists people who write papers

1449
01:02:51,950 --> 01:02:49,440
people who you know do these experiments

1450
01:02:54,200 --> 01:02:51,960
and get known for these things when you

1451
01:02:56,300 --> 01:02:54,210
do have that very narrow but very deep

1452
01:02:59,810 --> 01:02:56,310
set of knowledge if somebody comes along

1453
01:03:02,090 --> 01:02:59,820
and pulls it out from under you your

1454
01:03:04,340 --> 01:03:02,100
whole reason for being your whole you

1455
01:03:06,830 --> 01:03:04,350
know reason for getting funding you know

1456
01:03:09,680 --> 01:03:06,840
that helps pay your mortgage and you

1457
01:03:11,390 --> 01:03:09,690
know maintains your stature your

1458
01:03:12,630 --> 01:03:11,400
university or whatever that all that all

1459
01:03:15,089 --> 01:03:12,640
goes away

1460
01:03:17,759 --> 01:03:15,099
I think there's a lot of fear and

1461
01:03:20,430 --> 01:03:17,769
defense mechanism that happens when

1462
01:03:25,650 --> 01:03:20,440
people start challenging some of these

1463
01:03:27,660 --> 01:03:25,660
very very old ideas oh I totally agree

1464
01:03:30,240 --> 01:03:27,670
with you that that is the reality but I

1465
01:03:34,019 --> 01:03:30,250
guess I just have more of a question of

1466
01:03:35,609 --> 01:03:34,029
if it's just unfortunate unfortunately

1467
01:03:37,349 --> 01:03:35,619
the way it is or if it's a result of

1468
01:03:39,599 --> 01:03:37,359
careful planning to orchestrate that

1469
01:03:43,049 --> 01:03:39,609
system but another thing I wanted to ask

1470
01:03:45,240 --> 01:03:43,059
you about was the idea of you know as we

1471
01:03:47,130 --> 01:03:45,250
look out into the universe it

1472
01:03:48,630 --> 01:03:47,140
manifesting itself as we look further

1473
01:03:50,849 --> 01:03:48,640
and further and develop the ability to

1474
01:03:53,490 --> 01:03:50,859
do so how do you think that could apply

1475
01:03:56,370 --> 01:03:53,500
to extraterrestrials do you think maybe

1476
01:03:59,190 --> 01:03:56,380
being more open to the idea in modern

1477
01:04:00,960 --> 01:03:59,200
times having more of an expectation of

1478
01:04:02,940 --> 01:04:00,970
the possibility of finding something

1479
01:04:05,819 --> 01:04:02,950
that it might actually bring it to

1480
01:04:11,660 --> 01:04:05,829
fruition yeah I think there's something

1481
01:04:14,880 --> 01:04:11,670
to that you know they may be other

1482
01:04:19,200 --> 01:04:14,890
organized conscious entities and the

1483
01:04:23,130 --> 01:04:19,210
greater field of consciousness as we are

1484
01:04:26,130 --> 01:04:23,140
just different and the rules of our

1485
01:04:28,099 --> 01:04:26,140
interaction are different than what the

1486
01:04:30,390 --> 01:04:28,109
rules or interaction with ourselves are

1487
01:04:33,150 --> 01:04:30,400
you know sort of how the way I would

1488
01:04:36,839 --> 01:04:33,160
look at it you know if we want to make

1489
01:04:40,349 --> 01:04:36,849
more contact we probably the more that

1490
01:04:43,519 --> 01:04:40,359
we get in touch with this you know idea

1491
01:04:49,230 --> 01:04:43,529
of how there's one global consciousness

1492
01:04:51,589 --> 01:04:49,240
and we maybe make requests for those

1493
01:04:54,480 --> 01:04:51,599
interactions might might bring us closer

1494
01:04:56,309 --> 01:04:54,490
yeah it's a curious thing maybe we're

1495
01:04:59,269 --> 01:04:56,319
already deeply in those communications

1496
01:05:02,160 --> 01:04:59,279
and we just don't know it we might be

1497
01:05:03,749 --> 01:05:02,170
might be some of what happened in the

1498
01:05:07,380 --> 01:05:03,759
dream state - yeah

1499
01:05:08,759 --> 01:05:07,390
totally agree it's been great talking to

1500
01:05:11,370 --> 01:05:08,769
you man before we go I wanted to ask you

1501
01:05:13,769 --> 01:05:11,380
one other thing it seems like I I see

1502
01:05:15,779 --> 01:05:13,779
new crazy scientific discoveries like

1503
01:05:18,240 --> 01:05:15,789
every other day online whether I

1504
01:05:20,579 --> 01:05:18,250
understand it or not but what are some

1505
01:05:22,829 --> 01:05:20,589
of the more recent things to come out of

1506
01:05:25,780 --> 01:05:22,839
the internet that that you've seen that

1507
01:05:28,970 --> 01:05:25,790
most interest you

1508
01:05:33,500 --> 01:05:28,980
well one of them that I just saw last

1509
01:05:36,290 --> 01:05:33,510
night was fascinating was a study with

1510
01:05:40,880 --> 01:05:36,300
some experimental evidence that that

1511
01:05:46,880 --> 01:05:40,890
shows that time may come out of this

1512
01:05:51,380 --> 01:05:46,890
whole entanglement idea so time time

1513
01:05:53,420 --> 01:05:51,390
itself exists within the sort of the

1514
01:05:56,540 --> 01:05:53,430
bubble of space where things are

1515
01:05:59,690 --> 01:05:56,550
entangled and outside of it time doesn't

1516
01:06:01,970 --> 01:05:59,700
exist at all I'm still trying to wrap my

1517
01:06:07,190 --> 01:06:01,980
head around this but this this one I

1518
01:06:09,560 --> 01:06:07,200
mean it feels to me intuitively like it

1519
01:06:13,460 --> 01:06:09,570
may be another piece of the puzzle it

1520
01:06:16,010 --> 01:06:13,470
might be something that you know can can

1521
01:06:18,560 --> 01:06:16,020
give us a more you know enlightenment

1522
01:06:21,140 --> 01:06:18,570
about the way the greater reality works

1523
01:06:24,800 --> 01:06:21,150
yeah that's that's pretty interesting

1524
01:06:26,990 --> 01:06:24,810
yeah it's almost like an evolution of

1525
01:06:28,940 --> 01:06:27,000
the same principle that you know the

1526
01:06:31,100 --> 01:06:28,950
reality we look at the stuff we look at

1527
01:06:34,070 --> 01:06:31,110
feels so solid looks so solid but it's

1528
01:06:37,940 --> 01:06:34,080
mainly empty you know time feels like

1529
01:06:39,950 --> 01:06:37,950
such a fundamental necessity yet you

1530
01:06:41,690 --> 01:06:39,960
know if there was a way to explore it

1531
01:06:44,830 --> 01:06:41,700
deeper we might find that you know

1532
01:06:49,040 --> 01:06:44,840
there's more timelessness than time miss

1533
01:06:52,610 --> 01:06:49,050
exactly yeah and there is also a an

1534
01:06:56,000 --> 01:06:52,620
article about some people from Arizona

1535
01:07:00,620 --> 01:06:56,010
State Paul Davies was one one's a very

1536
01:07:03,290 --> 01:07:00,630
long scientist that the transition from

1537
01:07:05,450 --> 01:07:03,300
inorganic to organic life was based on

1538
01:07:08,390 --> 01:07:05,460
information and not chemistry well that

1539
01:07:11,390 --> 01:07:08,400
all fits in perfectly with with the the

1540
01:07:13,040 --> 01:07:11,400
programmed reality idea as well so a lot

1541
01:07:14,420 --> 01:07:13,050
a lot of you know cool things that

1542
01:07:17,930 --> 01:07:14,430
people are starting to think about if

1543
01:07:19,790 --> 01:07:17,940
they stay open-minded yeah right oh man

1544
01:07:22,040 --> 01:07:19,800
I mean I think I'm not a smart man but

1545
01:07:24,290 --> 01:07:22,050
I'm an open-minded man so some of the

1546
01:07:24,850 --> 01:07:24,300
sometimes that's uh sometimes that's

1547
01:07:26,990 --> 01:07:24,860
better

1548
01:07:29,900 --> 01:07:27,000
well you you asked some great questions

1549
01:07:32,270 --> 01:07:29,910
so I put you on the smart side well I

1550
01:07:34,370 --> 01:07:32,280
appreciate your kindness but one man it

1551
01:07:35,720 --> 01:07:34,380
has been a blast talking to you even

1552
01:07:38,270 --> 01:07:35,730
though I feel more insignificant than

1553
01:07:41,210 --> 01:07:38,280
ever I'm somehow still in a good mood

1554
01:07:44,270 --> 01:07:41,220
I think that's okay I do too and I'm

1555
01:07:45,590 --> 01:07:44,280
alright with that for sure do you want

1556
01:07:47,780 --> 01:07:45,600
to tell the people a little bit about

1557
01:07:50,330 --> 01:07:47,790
your book and your website before we go

1558
01:07:53,470 --> 01:07:50,340
oh sure yeah the the book is called the

1559
01:07:56,480 --> 01:07:53,480
universe solved it's available on Amazon

1560
01:07:59,390 --> 01:07:56,490
both in a hardback form and a Kindle

1561
01:08:01,760 --> 01:07:59,400
version the website is the universe all

1562
01:08:03,800 --> 01:08:01,770
calm and that's you know probably be

1563
01:08:06,680 --> 01:08:03,810
doing a overhaul of that and then over

1564
01:08:08,840 --> 01:08:06,690
the next year or so right now it's a

1565
01:08:12,710 --> 01:08:08,850
it's got a lot of interactivity on it

1566
01:08:14,420 --> 01:08:12,720
there's a forum there's my blog poles

1567
01:08:17,090 --> 01:08:14,430
all kinds of things where people can

1568
01:08:18,920 --> 01:08:17,100
interact and explore things and I just

1569
01:08:22,010 --> 01:08:18,930
want to kind of bring it up to date a

1570
01:08:24,200 --> 01:08:22,020
little bit so there's even an artificial

1571
01:08:26,210 --> 01:08:24,210
intelligence on there named Morpheus

1572
01:08:30,260 --> 01:08:26,220
that you can a chat bot that you can

1573
01:08:33,200 --> 01:08:30,270
chat with so yeah I've always interested

1574
01:08:34,970 --> 01:08:33,210
in talking to people too about these

1575
01:08:38,960 --> 01:08:34,980
kinds of things so if anybody has ideas

1576
01:08:40,610 --> 01:08:38,970
wants to explore anything they can they

1577
01:08:43,550 --> 01:08:40,620
can follow me on Facebook follow me on

1578
01:08:43,910 --> 01:08:43,560
Twitter send me emails whatever it all

1579
01:08:46,760 --> 01:08:43,920
works

1580
01:08:48,530 --> 01:08:46,770
all right uh very cool Jim thanks again

1581
01:08:50,210 --> 01:08:48,540
and be sure to give me a call when you

1582
01:08:52,940 --> 01:08:50,220
get this whole reality thing sorted out

1583
01:08:53,930 --> 01:08:52,950
all right okay thanks great great great

1584
01:08:57,380 --> 01:08:53,940
talking to you thanks for the interview

1585
01:09:00,500 --> 01:08:57,390
man take care all right all right people

1586
01:09:03,140 --> 01:09:00,510
that was Jim Elvidge what a great guest

1587
01:09:05,180 --> 01:09:03,150
hey thanks for listening people I really

1588
01:09:07,579 --> 01:09:05,190
appreciate it I'm honored I'm humbled I

1589
01:09:10,849 --> 01:09:07,589
can't believe it show grows more every

1590
01:09:12,770 --> 01:09:10,859
day and I am probably more surprised

1591
01:09:15,079 --> 01:09:12,780
than anybody with that said please

1592
01:09:17,450 --> 01:09:15,089
participate the THC money mom if you

1593
01:09:20,120 --> 01:09:17,460
have any interest in that the donation

1594
01:09:26,599 --> 01:09:20,130
link is on the page and you can go to

1595
01:09:29,450 --> 01:09:26,609
WWE Champion volved if you like t-shirts

1596
01:09:32,630 --> 01:09:29,460
I'm selling them conspiracies net and

1597
01:09:34,940 --> 01:09:32,640
that's about all I got so I'll see you

1598
01:09:36,650 --> 01:09:34,950
next week again thanks thanks thanks so